Philippe Montanier: The dead man walking who struggled with an impossible job

The history books will show that Philippe Montanier was given the sack on January 14 but, in essence, his brief reign at the City Ground really ended on August 28th.

#NFFC can confirm that the club have parted company with head coach Philippe Montanier. https://t.co/uWe14CZ5O2 pic.twitter.com/lobMR5tX0D

— Nottingham Forest FC (@NFFC) January 14, 2017

August 27th, the day before the sale of Oliver Burke, had been a happy one. A third win of the season kept up the perfect start at home, with Leeds put to the sword. The threat of Monk's men had finally been nullified by a late and decisive blow from the ace up Philippe's smartly tailored sleeves - Burke netting for a fourth time in the season. Not only that, but the manager been given assurances that the 'Scottish Gareth Bale' would not be sold.

The sale of Oliver Burke the next day must have come as a hammer blow. Philippe had no time to spend the incoming money that, according to the boasts of the owner, had been a 'good deal'. None of us really knows whether he would have had it to spend anyway. Regardless of that, the sale undermined Philippe and set the tone. This wasn't a club on the up, aiming to challenge with bright young talent after all. It wasn't a job where you could succeed and make a difference, it was a job where you tried to prolong the sack for as long as you could.

That Montanier only finally lost his job in January is more down to the protracted takeover talks than anything else and it can't have been easy knowing that he was not the choice of either the current or future owner. No-one can blame him for sticking around to get his pay-off - that's pretty much the only perk to taking up the City Ground hotseat these days.

It feels such a shame that Philippe became just the latest in the list of managerial victims of the Fawaz regime. He cut a dashing figure on the touchline, delivered excitement on the pitch, blooded our youngsters, extolled the virtues of cheese and genuinely seemed a ruddy nice bloke. There was even a song for him, to the tune of Blondie's Denis, that deserved greater use.



Still, Philippe was the head coach in a continental-style club structure that, along with the Greek takeover, never materialised. Director of Football Pedro Pereira was soon gone, leaving the Frenchman the sole survivor of an abandoned strategy that could only have worked if we'd ever inserted the other pieces of the puzzle.

On top of all that, he must've been scratching his head at the never-ending injury saga which continues to be forgotten about amid Fawaz's circus.

That's not to say the former Real Sociedad boss was perfect, far from it. Over time, he took the bad hand he's been dealt and played it badly. He struggled to settle on a line-up, deployed players out of position and managed just two clean sheets, one in his last game. His teams weren't solid enough or good enough on the ball to dominate for long periods and suffered as a result.

Even victories left us scratching our heads at times. While Philippe can take much credit from the spirited showings in the early home games or at Villa away, say, the signs were there in all of those performances that there were many flaws in the team and squad.

None of us knows if he had any say in the transfers or whether that was the sole preserve of Pedro Pereira. The sad fact, however, is that none of the new arrivals has really worked. You could make a clear case that our best XI would not include any summer signings.

Then there were moments - such as the penalty argument between Henri Lansbury and Britt Assombalonga or Eric Lichaj switching positions with Matty Cash - in which you questioned his control over the squad. His laid-back approach probably wasn't suited to players that needed a boot up the proverbial.

Still, that criticism is harsh for a man who maintained his dignity and professionalism amid chaos. He'll at least be able to write off his failure as being a product of the conditions at a 'crisis club'.

His will be another reign defined by 'what ifs'. What if the Greeks had taken over? What if he'd been part of a proper club structure? What if he'd not had his bright young star sold against his wishes? What if he'd been able to pick from a fully fit squad?

Au revoir Philippe. No hard feelings, eh?

What next for Forest after takeover collapse?

We've been a football club on ice for some weeks now. The Champagne has been on ice in expectation of the American takeover and talks of a protest were on ice with a sale in the pipeline. The ice melted last night and a fiery and uncertain future now surely awaits.

In some respects, the failure of the takeover should be no shock. When there's Fawaz Al-Hasawi and paperwork involved things tend not to end well, do they? Recent delays only served to make me nervous. With Forest, you always have to expect the worst don't you? Doubly so with Fawaz's Forest.

It doesn't seem like either party can be completely absolved of blame here. The Americans are said to have tried to drive the price down at the last minute and they do have form - getting close and failing to buy two other clubs. Fawaz, though, also has form in courting would-be buyers and failing to get them to agree to terms which, according to some reports, have been laughable.

Yet one thing I can't get my head around is quite why the sale was ever even close to £50 million in the first place, given the losses we regularly post. Surely only the very distant carrot of the Premier League can justify that? Maybe the Americans realised just how far away we are on and off the pitch after having time to assess the mess Fawaz has created?

Regardless, Fawaz is the one left amid the ruins and he'll now shoulder the blame. How much of his 'investment' does he really think he'll recover if we slip down the trap door and end up in League One? We're probably already worth less today as a result of the image of chaos we're projecting to the wider football world. Protests are now inevitable - starting with those hardy souls travelling to Birmingham today.

It used to be the case that I worried about protests against his regime. I feared he might just cut his losses and leave us in administration. Given his ego - and the fact he's learned nothing - it seems he wants to plough on for the time being by himself. Yet we're now left pondering whether or not administration, a 10-point deduction and near-certain relegation would be preferable to relegation anyway under Fawaz.

Even if by some miracle we stay up this season under a new boss, does anyone really think we won't slip further backwards under Fawaz in the next few years? League One beckons.

So, what are we left with in the short term? A 'dead man walking' manager, who was seemingly the choice of a long-abandoned alternative path, leading a band of bargain bin recruits, overrated and underperforming senior pros and young kids who risk being ruined by it all.

You do have to wonder how many of the players have asked their agent to hit the phones and find them a way out of the club in January. Whatever we think of the players, I can't imagine they're that enamoured by working for Fawaz for much longer.

A fire sale of Henri Lansbury, Ben Osborn, Ben Brereton, Matty Cash, Britt Assombalonga etc. could well happen, especially if Fawaz needs the money to run the club. Don't even mention the Oliver Burke money.

Then there's the manager. Philippe Montanier has been dealt a shockingly bad hand in his time at the City Ground yet, in recent weeks in particular, he hasn't played his poor hand very well. Maybe deep down he's resigned to his fate? Absolutely no-one would be surprised to see him join Steve McClaren and Alex McLeish in the list of managers sacked after games against Birmingham. A 'Sunday sacking' defines us more than anything we do on the pitch these days.

You'd have to wonder then who would be daft enough to follow him into the hotseat. Certainly not Gary Rowett, who was exactly the sort of manager we need and someone only within reach if we had been taken over. We'll no doubt end up dumping the burden on Gary Brazil and Jack Lester, distracting them from their work on the academy.

Protests, fire sales, a sacking and, in all probability, more listless displays on the pitch - grim times indeed.

In 2017 let's build a club fit for our academy graduates

This time last year I tried to prove that 2015 hadn't been all bad in a piece for In The Top One. Sadly, as we look back at 2016, I'm not sure there are many positives all to take from a pretty poor 12 months.

For 2015, I pointed to the following eight points:

1. Beating Derby twice
2. I Believe In Miracles
3. The Peter Taylor Stand
4. The 'honeymoon home wins' of the early Freedman days
5. Reading away and *those* three goals
6. The 150th anniversary
7. Tyler Walker
8. The necessary budget trimming

In the last 12 months we've lost twice to the Sheep and that 'necessary' budget trimming hasn't really laid the foundations that we hoped it would, with the club's future now on hold until a takeover can be completed. However, while the anniversary events can't happen every year, it's been good to see Forza Garibaldi, the trust and Bandy and Shinty emerge and take the baton on.

There haven't been that many highlights on the field either have there? The first win for ages at Boro was a pleasant surprise and MK Dons away - with Britt's comeback goal - ended a poor season on a good note. At home, the early season 4-3s were fun - although set a worrying precedent for the defensive frailty to come. Arsenal in the league cup sparked great interest and ended up being a chastening experience. 

Oddly, the most fun I've had this year at a game was probably at Villa away. A frenetic 2-2 with two really good goals and a cracking atmosphere in a proper ground that made for a big occasion. We didn't win but we had character and offered hope that things would get better.

Villa away

We finish 2016 with the following league record:

P46 W13 D12 L21 F56 A68

In some respects that set of results is entirely in keeping with the steady downward trend of the Fawaz era. If that were a season it'd mean 51 points and, based on last season's table, would've put us four points and four places below what we managed in 2015/16.

We kept just seven clean sheets in 2016 - and four of those were in a row within the first six games of the year as Dougie Freedman's 13-game unbeaten run came to an end. We've been far too easy to beat and, frustratingly, not that many of the teams to walk away with a point or three from the City Ground have looked that great.

Point 7 of my 2015 list was Tyler Walker. Somewhat disappointingly 'our Tyler' hasn't kicked on but the one big plus of 2016 surely has to be the performance of the academy players. The likes of Matty Cash and Joe Worrall have joined Ben Osborn as key fixtures on the first team scene and there are several more on the brink of a breakthrough. We now need a professional club with the sort of structure that can look after these players properly and continue their development. They should be the bedrock of the squad - with smart signings used to fill any gaps and add some experience. I'm fed up of signing bang average players who sit in the way of academy players that are probably better.

While the academy brought great joy in 2016, it's biggest and brightest talent was lost to us just as he threatened to break out and become a real superstar. Oliver Burke's sale to Red Bull Leipzig left a sour taste and killed much of the remaining sympathy towards the Fawaz regime while also taking the wind out of the sails of Philippe Montanier's bright start.

Which leads us to 2017. This year has to provide a new start and not just mark another in the list of false dawns. None of us should be under any illusions. Being taken over won't automatically stop us going down. The new owners will need an industrial sized Brasso to polish the turd they've been left. A lot of the work they have to do will be off the field and it might well take time to filter through. 

In 12 months time I'd like to have a club fit for our academy lads to graduate into. If so, 2017 could be the start of something better at the City Ground. The next few days need to be our 'zero hour' - marking a fresh new start where we move away from the failure of the Fawaz era. It can't come soon enough can it?

Fawaz's tweets show he's learned nothing from four years of failure

There's an unhealthy sense of 'here we go again' when Fawaz tweets isn't there? Last night's social media missives showed, once again, that he's learned very little from four years of failure at the City Ground.

First of all came the unedifying spectacle of young Ben Brereton's contract announcement seemingly being rushed out to detract away from yet another paperwork fiasco.

Pleased to announce that Ben Brereton has signed a new contract with #NFFC

— @FAWAZ_ALHASAWI (@fawaz_alhasawi1) December 31, 2016

That should have been a moment to rejoice - yet another academy star set to emerge from the production line. Instead it came at a time when the club was having to explain away yet another red tape cock up.

It might only be a 'formality' but the fact is that failure to provide financial paperwork to the FA has caused us to be placed in yet another transfer embargo. It might be easily solved when the takeover is complete but it really shouldn't have happened and it can't have impressed John Jay Moores and co. There's a way to bow out with dignity and professionalism and this is not it.

Worse still came in Fawaz's replies to fans. Now, you might argue that Fawaz gets a lot of unnecessary abuse on Twitter and I'm sure he does. There's no excuse for violent or abusive language directed towards anyone. To be honest, I've always felt that anyone who descends into dropping the 'c bomb' diminishes any point they might want to make. I'm no prude but there's no need.

However, right from the start Fawaz has revelled in the attention he has been able to get on social media. He's made transfer announcements and released other club news through the medium of 140 characters. He's set the tone and should've known that there would be rough to come with the smooth. It's easy to say you want to have a direct line to the fans but that does mean having to keep your cool when you don't like what you hear from them.

Last night he became defensive over a sarcastic comment about the Oliver Burke money.

@KRichmond2 13 million 13 million 13 million Do you know how much money 💰 I invest in nffc

— @FAWAZ_ALHASAWI (@fawaz_alhasawi1) December 31, 2016

The more I think about this tweet, the more I think it sums up what has gone wrong under Fawaz's leadership.

Firstly, it's hardly the language of someone who wants to be seen as a serious businessman is it? In fact, it sounds pretty petty to me.

Secondly, Fawaz has to accept that the reason why he's being ridiculed for the sale of Oliver Burke is because it looks set to be a spectacularly bad piece of business. Fawaz himself boasted about what a great deal he'd got for the prodigal winger and gave a confusing set of interviews in which he hinted that the manager would have the money to spend in January. Does anyone think we'll ever see any of that cash spent on the playing staff? If the money was, in reality, needed for FFP then we've been misled and Burke has been sacrificed to cover up Fawaz's failings. Either way, it's a mess.

Then there's the sheer hypocrisy of the question in his tweet. Do we know how much Fawaz has put into the club? Well, no actually. But, funnily enough, neither does the FA. The fact is that if Fawaz had bothered to fill out the paperwork and say how much he'd spent then we wouldn't be in an embargo and the new owner wouldn't have a mess to mop up. What awful timing to be trying to score that particular point.

Then there's the word 'invest'. A more accurate alternative would surely be 'waste'. Fawaz has poured money into inflated contracts and fees for average players and fired a succession of managers. His only plan has been to spend more to try to paper over the cracks. However much Fawaz has spent, it's said to be in the region of £100 million, the fact is that he could have got away with spending half the amount if he'd run the club properly and might well have got us to the Premier League. The sole reason he has spent quite so much is because the money he's stumped up has been used badly.

Money is necessary in the mad world of the Championship, yes, but organisation and structure are worth their weight in gold. The fact that he still sees his money as an 'investment' makes me think he hasn't learned a jot. His legacy is to leave a club with zero structure and a diminishing reputation. Some investment.

Last night he also asked fans to consider the players he had bought. Again, in a well run club he'd have provided the money needed for others to do the buying. It shouldn't have been about him and his ego. His role should have been about holding those to account who spent the money on his behalf.

It's worth adding the disclaimer that I know the person Fawaz tweeted. He's a good friend. As a result I also happen to know this person spends an awful lot of their time and money going around the country watching the mess of a club Fawaz has presided over. He's been a Forest fan longer than Fawaz and will still be here when he gets bored and clears off for good (it seems like he's clinging on to 20% for now). Frankly, given the mess Kev has watched, he's earned the right to make a sarcastic joke about the club. I'm sure there's plenty worse he could have said.

I gave Fawaz plenty of time. I still don't think he came with the intention of doing anything dodgy. I think he wanted the glory of leading us to the top flight and, frankly, I wasn't bothered if his ego trip coincided with success for the club too. But, whatever his intentions, he hasn't been up to the challenge. It really is time to go now.

The never-ending saga of the Nottingham Forest injury list

Here we are in limbo-land. No, not the 'in between Christmas and New Year' period - the 'in between owners' period. Yet, with Fawaz seemingly heading for the exit door and the Americans yet to formally arrive, someone has left on a stuck record playing out in the City Ground. Sadly, it's the all-too-familiar 'injury album' that we're hearing on loop.

Photo: Jack Torcello, Flickr

A month ago I tried to look at how our injury crisis compared to that of others. You can catch up with it here or, to save time, the conclusion was that yes, our injury situation does seem to be abnormally bad.

At that point 17 different first team squad players had suffered an injury this season. Since then we've seen Eric Lichaj, Joe Worrall, Henri Lansbury, Ben Osborn, Pajtim Kasami and Lica have all picked up injuries of varying degrees.

So, to recap, we're now up to 23 different players having suffered injuries after just 23 games. Even with my maths I can work out that that's one for every game. It's a number so high that Ceefax would have to spell it out with words.

It's now easier to list off the first team squad members who haven't been injured. I make it: Vladimir Stojkovic, Hildeberto Pereira, Jorge Grant, Nicolao Dumitru and Apostolos Vellios. Just five players yet to succumb to injury. Five players and counting.

It's also worth noting that I'm not even sure the five above haven't had a knock. Pereira has a handy suspension every few weeks to rest himself up while Grant and Dumitru are in and out of the matchday squad. If either of them were to be missing through injury we wouldn't know and neither of these players would ideally be named in a first choice XI or bench. Vellios is often 'rotated' too. Again, I've presumed this is based on preference not injury.

The injury farce is a motif for the shambolic running of the club. Recruitment has been poor, off-field solutions haven't been forthcoming and desperation on the pitch has presumably led to key players being rushed back. Just like the takeover, the injury crisis isn't over yet. See you next month for another whinge?

Derby County vs Nottingham Forest: As it happened

I've decided to try something new for the big game today - an 'as live' account of the thoughts that go through my head during a game. I expect it'll be a mix of the irrational and nonsensical. I'm genuinely typing as I go, so I've no idea what awaits. Here goes...

11.30: Right, we're live on Sky. Again. Let's hope it ends up the same as the last three. The team news has already been pored over and, remarkably, it's an unchanged XI. The first time this season. Britt doesn't even make the bench and he continues to be a real worry. I'm slightly surprised he hasn't gone for Vellios over Bendtner for 'work rate' reasons but we've got to hope The Lord is going to get sharper with more game time. I fear today is the day that our luck runs out, I just hope I'm wrong. Frankly, I'm never confident about these games.

The #NFFC line-up in full to face @dcfcofficial (kick-off 12pm): pic.twitter.com/ZpOOD5jnyI

— Nottingham Forest FC (@NFFC) December 11, 2016

11.35: Psycho is on punditry. What. A. Man. If only he were playing...

11.45: Hang on, Henri is injured in the warm up. Just our luck. That's now 20 different players injured this season (I wrote about the issue here). This really needs sorting. Carayol in to replace him - so much for an unchanged team.

Kick off: Derby trying to nick Seven Nation Army off the Germans. Never mind, fits our Bobby Zamora song nicely.

2: Why do you always need the loo as soon as the game starts? Could be a long half.

3: Chance to break down the right but Cash can't quite find the cross. Bendtner pulling right and causing a little confusion. Interesting.

5: A Tom Ince shank (love those!) gives us the ball for a break. Carayol marauds but inexplicably shoots right up someone's backside when he should've passed. Frustrating.

7: Who are Avon Tyres and why is their logo bigger than the player names on the Sheep shirts? Tinpot or a sign of what's needed to make money in this grubby old game these days?

9: First flashpoint. Bradley Johnson and Ben Osborn involved in some early handbags. Ben did foul him but Johnson plonked his sizeable backside on Benny. Both booked.

10: Another break and we do look dangerous. Carayol, though, again fails to make the killer pass. Can't let too many of these opportunities go.

11: Turns out Bent and Perquis were also booked during the Osborn/Johnson melee. For an 'aggressive attitude'. Don't put your house on that being the end of the cards.

14: Lots of stray passes. Oh for David Vaughan...

15: Bent ends up sprawled on the floor from a cross. Heart in mouth moment but he was miles away from Mills. Phew.

16: Shambolic defending leaves Keogh a free header that he, luckily, does little with. He might cry...

20: Olsson is dangerous, as we've seen in this fixture before. He skips passed Cash but can't get his cross past Perquis.

21: Bendtner is still pulling wide which is allowing him to pick up the ball in space. Trouble is, we need him in the middle too...

25: Derby are getting A LOT of the ball in our half and we're sinking deeper and deeper. We can spring forward though and a Carayol shot forces a corner. It's wasted though. Another opportunity passed up.

26: Dangerous Derby break ends up with a late challenge from Bent on Lichaj. He's already been booked. Is this? Could this? Will it? No, just a free kick. Forest fans in good voice, keep it up lads.

31: Olsson down but it was a good challenge. Derby can't complain, they set the tone for not kicking the ball out in these games after all.

32: Balls. Double balls. Derby score. An own goal by Bendtner from a corner. Ruddy hell. Something of a freak goal. Now we'll see what we're made of. Wonder where they got the idea of 'Chelsea Dagger' for goal music?

35: Forest are losing, sing the Derby fans. Good at maths that lot. Fear they could have more to sing about soon, we've gone into our shell.

37: Perquis fluffs a header and nearly lets Bent in. Nerves continue to jangle.

39: Lam roams forward and feeds Kasami on the edge of the box for the lamest of efforts. It's our first shot on target but it barely deserves to count. I really don't have any confidence in Kasami.

40: Another corner for them and another worrying moment. We don't do 'calm' do we?

42: Osborn is getting no time on the ball at all. They know they need to cut him out of the game and they're doing it well.

44: Bendtner 'makes sure' of a challenge to win a free kick. Good opportunity...

45: Osborn takes and it's tamely headed to Carson. Tame is the word to describe our end product at the moment.

46: Ince comes to the left and finds a cross to Russell who can't quite finish the header. Worrying.

46: The game has livened up. A Mills flick-on causes chaos - for us as much as them - but somehow comes to Cash who strikes a sweet shot that is saved by Carson. Nothing tame about that - a good hit and our best effort.

HALF TIME: And breathe. We've been here before. They led at half time to an own goal from a corner a couple of years ago - could it happen again? Let's cling to that hope. On the other hand, it seems set up for a 3-0 with a red card to Osborn.

Right, I've had some toast, I've got a cup of tea, I've had a wee. I'm ready for the second half, are you?!

Coral offering 10/1 on Bendtner to score next. Hmm, in which end?

Second half begins after 'Welcome to the jungle' blares out. Hang on, wasn't that one we used to use too? Still, might offend some people here, but that song is utter garbage isn't it? Overrated. Plus, they don't have rams in jungles do they?

49: Carayol is playing further back now which seems odd. Why not put Vaughan there? Just as I type Carayol gives the ball away and Lam picks up a booking for a foul.

52: Free kick in and Bendtner - again! - heads to goal. He hits the post. Flaming heck. Any chance of aiming the right way Nick. Would Coral have paid out?!

54: Christ. Mr Man of the Match himself scores. Superb ball from Baird bisects the defence and, to be fair, it's a top quality finish. He can't resist celebrating towards the Forest fans of course - every bit as annoying as his dad. You fear that's us done and dusted here. Changes needed Philippe.

57: Cash blazes a ball half way back down the A52 and we're struggling to piece together an attacking move. Got to be more assured on the ball or this could become embarrassing.

59: Carayol displays the touch of a man who hasn't got a clue where he's playing. Don't worry Muzzy, no-one else knows either. He's replaced by Vellios. Did Mancienne signal for a back four?

61: More blocks than a high level on Tetris as we just, just, keep Derby at bay. It's a bit desperate right now. Need to settle.

63: Bugger, again. They're ripping us to shreds now. Kasami and Lam all at sea. Good save from Stojkovic to stop Russell but Hughes pounces to make it 3. Need to change things in the middle.

68: Sky flash up a graphic to say they've had 28 touches in our area, we've had 4 in theirs. Thanks Sky.

69: On comes Pereira. Will he make it to the end of the game without getting sent off?

71. Vydra on for Bent. Vydra. We all know what happens next right?

73: A slow, lingering, painful death. We can't seem to mount a sustained an dangerous attack and the formation is a bit of a mess. Cash is on a one-man mission to make something happen but can't.

77: Why does Kasami underhit so many passes? How does he get a place in the team? Not good enough.

80: Tepid shot from Kasami. Add that to 'tame' on the Kasami word list.

83: Vaughan lives! Here he is at last! Remarkably it's for Cash.

86: Pereira gets his head down and keeps running. Sadly, like the rest of our play, there is little direction and it fizzles out. He hasn't got booked yet though.

88: Vaughan has shown more composure in five minutes than the rest of the midfield. Really should have started this game.

90: I'd forgotten Bendtner was on. I think he had forgotten too.

92: *Irony klaxon* Tom Ince named man of the match.

94: That's all folks. A very forgettable affair. Sadly looked like a lower mid table side taking on a top six contender. Need some points at home to put this behind us. Feared our luck was going to run out today  and it did. You can't be so careless on the ball and keep winning games. Gutted. Let's never speak of this again.

Do Forest really get more injuries than other teams?

Everyone thinks their own club is special, right? Football is not a sport that does perspective well and it's easy for fans of every team to think that their predicament is the worst.

We've presumably all laughed at the fans of Premier League top six teams such as Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs when they dial up and moan about their teams' deficiencies on football phone-ins. I once heard a Liverpool fan call Talk Sport at half time to demand that Brendan Rodgers was sacked because his side was behind to Aston Villa. They won that game. Let's face it, if you had a pound for every time someone has called for Arsene Wenger to be sacked you'd, well, be able to afford a ticket to see his Arsenal team, probably.

A month ago I asked why Forest have had so many injuries. At that point I totted up that the first 13 league games of the season had seen 11 players taken off during a match as a result of injury. Just five games up until that point had been played out without a substitution due to an injury.

But, was I falling into the lack of perspective trap that catches those poor, hard done to, Premier League fans? Is Forest's injury crisis actually any worse than any other club's? All fans, and all managers, bemoan injuries in the same way that we all always want at least one or two more signings.

Well, firstly, it's hard to tell just how bad the situation is at every club in the Championship. At face value, the data doesn't seem that easy to come by (unless anyone knows of a good source?).

However, this sort of information is more readily available in the Premier League. Last January 15, the BBC ran a story in conjunction with PhysioRoom which featured a league table based on the number of 'days missed' through injury. Again, I don't hold this data for Forest this season but the table also showed the total number of players injured for each of the Premier League clubs, something we have half a chance of comparing.

Top of the table - with the fewest injuries - were Watford, Leicester, Norwich and Swansea with nine injured players apiece. Worst off were the two Manchester clubs, with 20 each, Liverpool and Stoke with 19 and the two North East clubs with 18.

Later, The Independent was one of a number of news outlets to report the fact that Leicester suffered just 18 injuries all season.

How about now? Well, PhysioRoom, where the press seems to get its data on this, shows that Hull and Watford are currently worst off in the top flight with seven injuries each.

So, what about Forest? By my reckoning at least 17 different players have suffered injuries of some form this season: Dorus De Vries, Stephen Henderson, Daniel Pinillos, Michael Mancienne, Matt Mills, Armand Traore, Danny Fox, Jack Hobbs, Damien Perquis, Thomas Lam, Chris Cohen, Muzzy Carayol, David Vaughan, Matty Cash, Matty Fryatt, Britt Assombalonga and Niklas Bendtner.

I fear I may well have missed someone too (have Dumitru and Lica had knocks?) and we're told that Eric Lichaj is a doubt for the Barnsley game.

In total, 32 different players have worn the Garibaldi Red this season and, by my reckoning, a Lichaj injury would mean that at least 16 of those have been injured (with Hobbs and Fryatt yet to start). Two of those are among the players now out on loan too (with Jamie Ward injured) and four have left the club. You could say that 15 of the 25 players who are currently on the books and have played a league game will have been injured should Eric miss out.

There's a chance that Pinillos, Lichaj, Traore, Hobbs, Cohen, Vaughan, Cash, Fryatt, Bendtner and Assombalonga could all be missing for the trip to Oakwell if those 'in doubt' don't quite make it for this game.

If that were the case, it would be ten players missing for Phillippe Montanier. Previouefore the Reading game it was said that nine players were out.

Again, it's a shame we can't compare like-for-like but we can say:

• Forest seem to have more current injuries than any Premier League team
• Half of the first team squad has been injured at least once already this season
• If Lichaj is out, then the 18 different injured players we've had would represent a higher rate than 14 of the 20 Premier League clubs had suffered by mid January last season
• Leicester only suffered 18 separate injuries last season. With some of our players suffering two or three knocks already then our total is well into the 20s before the half way point of 2016/17.

So, while we can't say with absolute certainty that Forest's is the worst injury crisis, the evidence I can find shows that it must at least be among the worst. The picture is still extremely bleak even when compared to others and shows no real sign of improving.

It is certainly enough to suggest that something really ought to be done about the issue. Peter Blackburn probably summed it up best with this tweet:

Serious inquest into causes of #nffc injuries needed. Audit of pitches, medical dept, training and recruitment. This is becoming serious.

— Peter Blackburn (@petermblackburn) November 23, 2016

He's right, we have to look at all of those things to see if they're contributing to the numbers. If we can get the level of injuries down, even to an average level, that would at least help matters on the pitch. We're at the stage now where, as I argued on Seat Pitch, we need to recruit in January because we can't afford to rely on players plagued by injury.

On this issue, it doesn't seem like we've lost our sense of perspective. The injury problem is real and needs to be addressed. It has to be one of the top priorities for any buyer of the club and cannot afford to get lost amid any change that is hopefully on the horizon.